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Connie
09-16-2008, 08:12 AM
As the title says, this question is seeking the guru-hood of you experienced ones, and/or the comments of anyone else: Instant inductions used in a therapy session, when/would it be appropriate? What's your experience?

In my recent EXCELLENT training, we learned several instant inductions, two new to me that I really like! They're not jerky or spastic or violent, they're pretty gentle. And massively effective. I used them repeatedly in class exercises with great success. I'm wondering how they could prove useful in a client therapy setting.

What do you think? What kind of clients and situations would they be best suited for?

Typically, I use a pretty brief and powerful modified Elman induction when seeing clients for the first time. Takes about 10 minutes to get 'em in good and deep. Of course, any repeat clients get a posthypnotic to reinduction and that's basically an instant.

If hypnosis in the formal "trance chair" is on the agenda, should I stop wasting time and just get to the changework?

Poodle
09-16-2008, 08:38 AM
ANY client wherein time matters -- Drs. lawyers, stockbrokers, etc. and also early and late evening clients to avoid sleep instead of trance. Fun in training sessions too as you have noticed Richard do.

Stay well,
Pood

Simple Guy
09-16-2008, 09:40 AM
Connie,

Aside from time considerations, an appropriateness determination
would include what messages/learnings are being conveyed by
an induction. Often, I'll tailor an induction to be a teachable
moment for self-hypnosis training for a client (via example of
the experience) or as an experiential metaphor for _________ .
There is also a taking into acct. of "control" concerns by a client
and how a particular inductions(s) will play a role in assimilation of
the entire work being done. The induction isn't just a means to
an end. :) This is about as far as I'll go on this in open forum.

P.S. I'm probably going to be less visible around here,
at least for a while. I'm okay, should anyone be concerned.

Merlin
09-16-2008, 11:13 AM
Connie,
I most often use 'instant' inductions.
The client is usually seeing me for what comes after the induction, not for the induction itself.

Care to share what you learned?

Connie
09-16-2008, 02:25 PM
Hi, thanks all! All good points!

Merlin, I don't know the "names" for them, but I'll be happy to describe. Really, the only instant induction I knew before this was the handshake interrupt. Which I still like! And the "shoelace induction," if you want to call that instant. :) Igor taught one where you put a hand on the back of the neck area and focus their attention with your other hand in front of their face, ask them to take a deep breath in, and when they exhale, you do this sort of finger roll thing whilst giving the trance commands and deepeners...it rolls their head forward (and it's not rough, though some of my practice mates didn't quite "get" that part) and you catch their head with your open hand and do a head rotation. More deepeners. This manoever can be done sitting down or standing up. Or, while standing...you can gently bring them to you and rest their head on your shoulder, and support their weight while doing the deepeners. As long as you don't crush their nose. Nothing like live practice to get the hang of stuff!! The other was an arm pull, unlike the kinds I've seen in stage shows which look kind of violent and jerky. This one was pretty smooth. I went up to Igor after class for another demo of it, and he did it on me several times. He's the most accommodating trainier I've ever had!

Actually, the best instant induction with the class exercises was just an instruction to "go into trance now." That worked amazingly well. :)

Don
09-16-2008, 02:26 PM
Hi, Connie.

I would suggest that the determination of which type of induction and how it is designed is completely dependent upon the expectations and needs of the client.

The actual changework begins with the first communication with the client. This continues with everything from the appearance of the "office" to the pre-induction talk.

If a client claims to know "a lot" about hypnosis, I might ask for a brief description of what they know. Usually, they will spill everything they know during the interview, anyway. If they expect a progressive relaxation induction--if they firmly expect such an induction--I'll give it to them. At the end of the trancework, I'll give a suggestion that they'll easily go into trance when they come again, yada, yada, yada.

However, when the trancework is complete, and they are no longer in a formal trance, I'll say, "Hey. Let's try something really great, okay?" and do a rapid induction. Positive suggestions given. Often, their response is "Wow!" (Sorry, Microsoft.) Because they've been in trance and know the feeling, and then I take them back into trance rapidly, they intuitively understand that they no longer need the longer induction. (It also functions as fractionalization.) In future sessions I'll use rapid inductions exclusively.

For people who know nothing about hypnosis, I'll do a rapid induction with fractionalization. It lets me spend time on changework rather than inductions.

If a client is nervous and/or scared, I'll go with a more Ericksonian induction the first time. This is longer, often even longer than a progressive relaxation induction, but includes suggestions for changework during the induction so it's not a waste of time. This helps them become comfortable with trance. Before they leave, again I'll do a rapid induction.

In short, I come to where the client is during the first session, and when it comes to induction, I lead them to where I want them to be for future sessions.

I leave instant inductions for shows and demonstrations. :)

Connie
09-16-2008, 02:32 PM
Thanks for the input, Don! Every word makes good sense. :)

Poodle
09-16-2008, 05:22 PM
Tom Nicoli has it on YouTube. You can pop right over to you know where and ask him if it has a name. I don't know it's name.

I'd call the Shoelace Induction a rapid induction, not an instant. I thought it was sort of fun for a change but Merlin changed my thinking on that.

Terry
09-17-2008, 09:06 AM
Time saving, and confidence building by the client in you and your skills are good reasons for rapid inductions.
Desire to help the client quickly to a successful conclusion however suggest the method you have been using to the present, ie, you show them the route to entering a trance state, so that they in turn can do it daily between sessions, and thus get maximum speed from therapy, plus feel they are contributing to their own success... I always include the client to the maximum degree, but of course my method suits me, and others may choose a different path... The rapid method you describe is similar to one I use frequently, ie, left hand to the back of the head, right hand on the forhead, gently tipping the head forward until the chin rests on the chest, and suggesting relaxation as you do so. This saves time for the therapy part, but does not allow the client to feel they are contributing, and thus for me is not the best way to START the relationship...
When you ask is the rapid induction of use? I say, when the client is comfortable with what their tasks are, and comfortable in letting you doYOUR job while they do theirs... My opinion, and you should do that with which you are comfortable...:)

Merlin
09-17-2008, 09:45 AM
Actually, the best instant induction with the class exercises was just an instruction to "go into trance now." That worked amazingly well.
yep.
Why bother with the other 'stuff'

Merlin
09-17-2008, 09:59 AM
check out
"Instant and Rapid Inductions In A Professional Practice"
training by Jerry kein

Merlin
09-18-2008, 11:09 AM
Mr. Elman had a requirement of his students.
1 minute or less for somnambulism.