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Power
02-26-2005, 03:52 PM
Greetings,

Forgive me for the outright title.

Please, let me explain.

I am early in my life at age 20. Here are my plans:

Spend the next few months or years teaching myself various subjects... I plan to use them to assist me in building a real estate investiment vehicle, in hopes of living comfortably.

Subjects from NLP, business and law, even esoteric skills, such as magic and kundalini.

I plan to join the navy in time and use the money to put towards this vehicle.

My problem is thus.. I have no control of my mind. No matter how much I want this future, I cannot muster the motivation or power to proceed.

I cannot afford to see a hypnotist, unfortunately. I have read that we are our own best hypnotists, and in learning hypnotism I hope to, essentially, take the reins of my own mind.

But I need your help.. I have been fighting with myself, with my own weakness and lack of motivation for almost two years now...

Please... What can I do, to make me want this future so much that I will go to any lengths to achieve it?

What can I do, to make everything I read on the subjects stick like glue in my mind?

Please... help me.

-Michael Power

Pdrive
02-26-2005, 03:58 PM
Start by seeing a hypnotherapist. If you really want to be empowered as you say, saving a little bit of cash shouldnt be to hard.

Power
02-26-2005, 10:11 PM
Pdrive, I appreciate your words.

I am looking more for advice... Let's say, what would a hypnotherapist do, if he himself had this problem?

In other words, what can I, myself, do?

Thank you once again, I appreciate it.

-Michael Power

skip
02-27-2005, 06:34 AM
Well Michael,

When I read your first post, I thought as Pdrive apparently did,that you wanted good advice, which he offered.

Now on reading your second post, I understand you only want advice you agree with.

OK

A few months certainly ought to do it.

thoughtfully,

skip

Terry (existing)
02-27-2005, 08:34 AM
Well my young friend, like most of your generation, you are impatient. Lifestyle has likely affected you as it has others who grew up on the "instant gratification" model of modern electronics, games, phones et al. Fact is however, nothing has changed in the real world, and anyone who tells you they can help you as requested will also prempt this with a request to send money... Want the secret of success? The real one I mean? Time, concentration on goals, and finally lots of hard work. Then, by the time you achieve those goals, you will have become worthy of them.......Oh yes, forget the navy, pay is lousy, you spend what little you get as you get it, but in fairness it can be fun, and is definitely character building, which I suspect you need. On the other hand, it takes you further away from your other goals, so choose with care....

mariah
02-27-2005, 10:46 AM
Copy Paste Copy Paste, is this the type of suggestion you hypnotist-experts give yourself? I knew all the responds by heart even before reading them.

Power, I see where you're coming from. Simply because I'm from there, too. If you want pm me. I don't charge much per hour. Kidding. I am not a hypnotist, but I've gone through this process- so.

Neurotic1
02-27-2005, 11:47 AM
Hello Michael

What can I do, to make everything I read on the subjects stick like glue in my mind?


Well one of the most effective ways of making things stick like glue is to read them because you are truly interested in the subject. Find the subject fascinating and become engrossed and -hey presto- you retain an immense amount of information. However, if you wish to be able to practise what you have read then you will need practise to make any techniques 'stick'. As a 'qualified hypnotherapist' that is what I would do. I would agree with much of what has been said in the other posts. It is very difficult to achieve things without acknowledgement of and commitment to a pathway to achieve those goals. What is your plan? What is your pathway? It is no use asking for others' pathways because everyone's approach is different. Some might prefer the highway whilst others prefer a country road.
Nothing in this World is truly 'free'. Everything requires some input/output from yourself be it thought, effort, money or whatever resource is needed. Identify your requirements, how you can achieve them, what resources you need and go from there. If you want the outcome badly enough, your will will move mountains. I advise having an aim and using SMART objectives.
Good luck.

Jack
02-27-2005, 12:25 PM
Hello Michael,

You have been trying to achieve your goal for 2 years. You believe that you
are your own best hypnotist. Examine these two statements.

Jack

Power
02-27-2005, 12:52 PM
I realize now that by helping me, you would essentially be taking money away from fellow hypnotherapists, thereby hurting your industry.

I was not looking for a magic bullet, per se, not a secret to success...

Just a plan to get myself in the frame of mind I need.

Terry, as a fellow Canadian I appreciate your words on the navy. ust this morning I read a news article regarding cutbacks, and the whole Chicoutimi fiasco didn't help, either.

However I'm not looking for instant gratification. I am not impatient, and I expect to be working a number of years to achieve the final goals I desire.

But to get in the state of mind I desire... burning ambition, motivation to move mountains, endless energy, a lovelike interest in anything I need to learn... To achieve these states and make them permanent should not take years, should it?

To end my post now I must pose a question posted earlier.

"What would a hypnotherapist do, if he himself had this problem?"

-Michael Power

Alonso
02-27-2005, 10:34 PM
I like your plan bro, it sounds really cool. Why not buy a couple of hypnosis books to go over some ways of programming your energies? :confused:

they definitely sound like fun to me. but you need to get your mind to stop struggling and maybe start easing into picking up a book about kundalini and really knowing what sorts of things you expect to learn in one sitting.

I would buy Robert Dilt's "Dynamic Learning" book. It teaches you how to read, how to read fast, how to study, how to learn... really learn.

Then I would buy, I don't know, NLP, by NLP Comprehensive, it teaches you about a hundred things and almost all of them have to do with how to reach goals. But it definitely helps you do a lot of things, how to program your time and your awareness of it, your awareness and skill in language, in enjoyment, in everything that you need to build a firm foundation to jump in and be really intelligent.

Good Luck. :p

Pdrive
02-28-2005, 12:11 AM
> "burning ambition, motivation to move mountains, endless energy, a lovelike interest in anything I need to learn"

Why not direct your ambition to have a "burning amibition" into actually learning the stuff you want to...
(confusing?:confused: )

You seem really keen to get motivated. You really desire it. You are motivated towards getting motivated... So just skip a step, and use your motivation to go learn what it is you want to learn.

You want to learn NLP (and maybe hypnosis?), yet you want to know what a hypnotist or NLP'er would do to learn this stuff AND you refuse to see a hypnotist to help you. How then, will you hypnotise motivation into yourself whilst being totally ignorant about hypnosis.

Perhaps hypnotherapy can help people wonderfully, almost magically. With little knowledge of hypnosis, anyone can go to a hypnotherapist, and get fantastic therapy for almost all of life problems. BUT THEY PAY FOR IT!

Now, if you want to experience that same benefit hypnosis has to offer, and you don't want to pay for it, you can learn self-hypnosis free from your local library. The efffects probably wont be as good, but hey, at least a library membership is free (just return your books on time!).

BUT

You claim that youre problem is motivation - that you cant just go learn.

So you come here, advertising yourself as a completely disabled person. You expect some magic cure for your problem (which is sounding start to sound more and more serious).

The only way you can go through with your "life plan" (if you really do have this serious motivation issue) is to go see a (hypno)therapist to help you work through this belief you have in your inability to achieve.

OR: You can order one of my magic potions, consisting of a secret formula based on the rare exotic substances (from far eastern lands did i mention)sucrose and akwa. Personally guaranteed to turn any loser into a celebrity, any bum into a millionaire etc etc.
Ill give it to you, if you can front up for postage and packaging (im in New Zealand, so start saving). PM me for more details.



"We pay for life with death, so everything in between should be free?"
- Bill Hicks

My potion is!


Cheers all,

Pdrive

Power
02-28-2005, 06:54 AM
I appreciate the attack, Pdrive, yet I will merely put forth the following question:

"What would a hypnotherapist do, if he himself had this problem?"

-Michael Power

Terry (existing)
02-28-2005, 07:55 AM
Micheal, you have jumped a step I'm afraid, and you also seem to have a problem understanding why others seem unable or unwilling to give the answers you want. You begin by suggesting that we are holding out because we might be robbing a fellow practitioner of a living by helping you freely. Fact is, if this were true, non of us would be worth much anyway. If it can be done without us intervening, why would we waste our time? Some of us at least are bloody good at what we do, or in my case have done in the past, and we have no fear of being put out of business by anything promoted online believe me. Secondly, you ask what a good hypnotist would do, yet when told by a good hypnotist, you reject what they say because it doen't fit your framework of what you think you should be hearing.....Now let me put you on the spot if I may, you tell US what you think our advice should be please. Yes I know you will need to give much thought to it, but after all, you expect us to do that for YOU, so it seems only fair that you do some of the work, and let us have the results eh? When we know were you are coming from, we may be able to offer better advise than we can to a total stranger about whom we know nothing.

betlamed
02-28-2005, 09:40 AM
Cool. I wonder what the replies would have been, had Power only phrased it a wee bit more enelpeediphile and left out their age.

Man, do I remember the confusion of my early twenties! I was even more unfocused and "unable to control my mind". Actually, I was way down in depression and unbearable guilt feelings, had just escaped a christian sect and was afraid I'd NEVER be able to make a living on my own.

In fact, I only learned last year that I can actually STOP my thoughts if I want to, that I can take a break from depression and confusion and feel good. Interestingly, a book on Zen meditation brought me there. It's a rather simple technique: Relax, close your eyes, breathe deep, and everytime a thought crosses your mind, you simply tell yourself that it's a thought. It's not reality. It's a thought.

Well, you can read up on this and go your own way! Just be aware that possibly your goals will change in the process. ;-) Life is change.

Perhaps there is a generation coming that can do the same things we learn in our thirties, only 20 years earlier because of the internet and mass media.

Anyway, I'm not the enelpee guru you probably want to find, and I don't charge by the hour (for that stuff, anyway). I'm just a fellow student. But you can pm me nonetheless.

Oh and Pdrive... actually, libraries DO charge a fee around here. (10 Euro per year, I think). ;-)

bl

betlamed
02-28-2005, 09:42 AM
Oops... 30-20=10.

Burn the math books and paddle the teacher!

bl

Don
02-28-2005, 02:17 PM
Hello, Michael.

First, I'd like to disagree with you on one major point. Hypnotherapy, IMO, is not an industry. It is a profession. Industries are filled with machines. If a machine is broken or not working right, it is simply replaced or has a part replaced. For example, a place like McDonalds is an industry. If one person can't grill burgers they find another person who can. On the other hand, being a professional chef is part of a profession. it requires training and often one part cannot replace another; that is, a pastry chef would have to go through further training to replace a chef specializing in cooking meats.

Being part of any profession, IMO, is an honor and a responsibility. There is a comraderie which, unfortunately, in some professions ends up as being an "old boys' network" that prevents new people from becoming part of the profession. Luckily, it has not been my experience that hypnotherapy is that way. If anything the attitude I've run into is "We need more good hypnotherapists. How can I help you?" Helping others doesn't hurt any industry...it helps our profession.

I think most of the hypnotists on this forum feel the same way. A problem develops, however, when someone without either training or understanding of hypnotherapy asks a question and expects a certain type of response. If a professional gives an accurate response which does not fulfill the expectation, the original questioner is upset. Respectfully, that seems to be the situation here.

You wrote: "But to get in the state of mind I desire... burning ambition, motivation to move mountains, endless energy, a lovelike interest in anything I need to learn... To achieve these states and make them permanent should not take years, should it?"

You are correct. Change can be instantaneous and permanent. But the question is, what changes? That is determined by going to a professional who, as a result of training, experience, and a personal interview with you, can help you not only determine the exact nature of the changes, but a way by which you can quickly achieve them.

You wrote: "What would a hypnotherapist do, if he himself had this problem?"

The answer is "the same thing any other professional would do: seek an objective expert and get their opinion and advice after a consultation."

Power
02-28-2005, 08:23 PM
Don, I appreciate your words.

Instead of telling me to find one, you've gone the extra mile and told me the one thing I needed.... Why.

You've explained to me why I can achieve my goals with a hypnotherapist much faster and more effectively than on my own. Thank you.

I wasn't expecting the sort of short-tempered backlash I recieved, and certainly did not intend to provoke it. We can let bygones be bygones, no doubt?

So... anyone recommend anyone near Toronto? What's the usual price range, and usual number of visits required?

Thanks,

-Michael Power

Pdrive
02-28-2005, 11:37 PM
haha wrong answer! I think you ighta broke another rule on this forum.

No... Sorry ill ease off.

I think one of the "old hands" will probably tell you something about how we cant recommend a prac in your area. Doubtlessly there will be an organisation you can contact for this info.

Don
03-01-2005, 11:07 AM
Hi, Michael,

One of the problems with forums such as this is that some members, who have been on the forum for a while, can get a short temper with the way they perceive certain questions or attitudes.

But, by the same token, I've found that the people here are very quick to forgive and forget. Some people who have come here initially and get sharp answers, end up staying and asking wonderful questions, getting good answers, and even end up giving good answers to questions by other people. I can't speak for everyone, but I personally hope you'll stay.

Yep, as Pdrive wrote, I'm the "old hand" that will tell you we can't officially recommend a practitioner in your area. But you can go through a group such as the American Board of Hypnotherapy (ABH) or the National Guild of Hypnotists (NGH). Both have websites and both are set up to certify and recommend hypnotists all over the world.

Merlin
03-01-2005, 07:52 PM
>So... anyone recommend anyone near Toronto?

The problem with recommendations is often that we simply do not know someone in your area to recommend.

>What's the usual price range

anywhere from free to about 3,000 per session.
Mostly in the hourly range of a good mechanic or plumber in your area.
What's a dentist charge where you are?

>and usual number of visits required?

2-4 is typical, depending on the problem(s)

Merlin
03-01-2005, 07:53 PM
actually, if you read the archives, you'd have found we sometimes do.

Terry (existing)
03-01-2005, 08:53 PM
The good news, Ontario and Alberta are two of the Provinces, perhaps the only two that allow lay practitioners, so you could be lucky....Search the Yellow pages under hypnosis, and try to find out if they have a Society for practitioners much as we have here, The Hypnosis Society of Alberta......That way you get a recommendation that has value.........