Hypnosis Accreditation

[Hypnodr]

Throughout the U.S. there are many hypnosis associations and institutions offering educational opportunities. Although there are many, not one offers a U.S. Department of Education accredited program. I would like to discuss the posibility of all hypnosis professionals and organizations coming together in a netural forum to develop and submit a plan to gain accreditation for hypnosis professionals, one that those within America's established academia circles cannot deny or refute when received.

[chillowack]

I almost wonder whether that is a desirable goal.

Somehow, it seems to me that the obscure, mysterious nature of hypnosis--and its corresponding place on the fringe of accepted scientific thought--works in its favor.

Every time something has been accepted by the mainstream, it has become watered down, diluted, palliated, and stripped of much of its power.

These often-inept government agencies, like the Dept. of Education, are run by bureaucrats and mindless systems, devoid of real power or feeling; should we really look upon them as the authorities whose permission we must obtain in order to help people?

[Terry (existing)]

Throughout the U.S. there are many hypnosis associations and institutions offering educational opportunities. Although there are many, not one offers a U.S. Department of Education accredited program. I would like to discuss the posibility of all hypnosis professionals and organizations coming together in a netural forum to develop and submit a plan to gain accreditation for hypnosis professionals, one that those within America's established academia circles cannot deny or refute when received. In the first place, just because you make a statement does not make it true or factual. It is my understanding that only ONE institute has been given the "legal" right to issue accreditations to trainees, and it seems from what i read, that they are not the best to begin with, just run by someone with pull in the state government which is the normal way to get something passed as a law.....Secondly, this only applies in the US, and not world wide. Finally, I am accredited in Alberta because HSA was started by a group, one of whom was a Government member, and so got us accredited. This in no way makes us better, just better able to work without undue restriction so long as we obey the laws of the land. It makes no difference to someone bent on taking advantage of others. Nor does it affect those of us who wish to help others in a legal manner. Forget the dream, it isn't practical, I teach my way because I know from experience it works. Others may find things that work for them and so train in a different manner, and thank God this is so, it is how we progress. To hell with a fixed program, the mind doesn't need it........ For example, I would love to attend a training given by several of my friends on this board, Skip, Don, Merlin, Jack, Simple Guy and several others, and I would learn something new from each and every one of them, that I didn't get from the rest. The same would apply if they attended a training given by me. Each of us would benifit from all these experiences, and clients would benifit most. One form of training would stunt all that knowledge and make us less effective with our clients. Now me, I put the client first, and Government last, particullarly when it comes to the Canadian Government whom I consider to be a bunch of limp wristed, inefectual, crooks. I'll be damned if I want them to control my mind as well as my pocket book. Be careful what you ask for, you just might get it, and I for one don't want it.....

[skip]

Aw Terry dont be afraid to say what you really feel? :)

cheers,

skip

[Terry (existing)]

Aw Terry dont be afraid to say what you really feel? :)

cheers,

skip I would like to reply with just one word "Never", but the computer won't accept just on word (G).....

[Jack]

In the UK we are moving towards a qualification which may prove to be national - the Hypnotherapy Practitioner Diploma (HPD) which is overseen by the DFE(Department for Further Education). It's not accreditation but it does indicate a level of expertise from a public perspective.

I, too would be very wary of the interference of medical practitioners in the accreditation of hypnotherapists, which is what accreditation would mean in real terms. The Department of Health (UK) has many, many times proved
itself to be comprised of inept, hidebound, politically swayed bunglers and medical doctors (with some exceptions) are not psychologically fitted to judge outcomes which were not treated using medical provenance - it's not their fault, its how they were taught. I don't know if the same is true in the US or Canada, but having spent some time in the former I suspect it is.

A far better way to raise the profile of the profession would be to increase links between the truly professional hypnotherapy organisations in the world (those where entry is gained by examination and not cash and sustained by ongoing supervision) and ensure that membership of one of them was de rigeur if hypnotherapy were to be practised by an individual. This would not apply to hypnosis, or stage shows, only to the use of hypnosis as treatment.

It is a fine line between accreditation and interference. How many of today's hypnotherapists would give up the freedom to practice they currently have to be governed by rules made by a government department which cannot be trusted to have their best interests at heart?

Jack

[Terry (existing)]

It is a fine line between accreditation and interference. How many of today's hypnotherapists would give up the freedom to practice they currently have to be governed by rules made by a government department which cannot be trusted to have their best interests at heart?
Jack It isn't even a matter of having our best interests at heart, I have yet to see any government do something right, much better us a private company for anything than a Government Department.... Thank Heavens our Alberta Provincial Government is hands off with us. They let us run our own system so long as they get no complaints, and tell any civil servant who wishes to use hypnosis as part of their profession, that they must join our Society so as to have expert eyes on such practises. Much like the medical profession. Find a governing body who will do that, and you have my support.....

[Soarhigh7]

It isn't even a matter of having our best interests at heart, I have yet to see any government do something right, much better us a private company for anything than a Government Department.... Thank Heavens our Alberta Provincial Government is hands off with us. They let us run our own system so long as they get no complaints, and tell any civil servant who wishes to use hypnosis as part of their profession, that they must join our Society so as to have expert eyes on such practises. Much like the medical profession. Find a governing body who will do that, and you have my support.....
...have yet to see any government do something right, much better us a private company for anything than a Government Department.... [/QUOTE]

In the states, being controlled, observed, monitored by the gov'nt is likened to spending the day at the Department of Motor Vehicles...need I say more??

[Shelby131]

That's why I'm a Libertarian!!

[Poodle]

Hmmm, Terry. You teach in Canada. Fantastic. I am very close to Canada and I for one would LOVE to learn from you. I was planning on going to Florida this fall but Canada is so much closer to home. I have actually seen or lived in most all of the world except for Canada so besides being a fantastic learning experience I would get to visit a beautiful country.

As to the post, I would, in a way, like to see some accreditation for hypnosis but then comes the question of "by who's rules of education does one fit into"? Pood