block with expressing yourself

[mariah]

Can hypnosis work on people that are afraid or have an 'inner block' for expressing themselves? Now I mean expressing themselves as in not holding in emotions. Talk about problems, cry in front of people, basically afraid to 'let go'. What type of suggestions can you use on this?

[Don]

Yes, it can.

Mariah, respectfully, you are assuming that all people are machines with replaceable parts. In my experience this is not the way the mind works.

The suggestions that can help one person with this might be totally different from those that can help another person. It will depend upon their background, experience, way of approaching life, attitudes, etc. This is an entire series of things that are different from person to person.

What type of suggestions to use? I would suggest that you take a course in hypnotherapy. Part of what you should be trained to do is a pre-induction interview with the client. During that interview you'll learn how to access the client's wants and needs--the suggestions will virtually write themselves.

[mariah]

Yes, it can.

Mariah, respectfully, you are assuming that all people are machines with replaceable parts. In my experience this is not the way the mind works.

The suggestions that can help one person with this might be totally different from those that can help another person. It will depend upon their background, experience, way of approaching life, attitudes, etc. This is an entire series of things that are different from person to person.

What type of suggestions to use? I would suggest that you take a course in hypnotherapy. Part of what you should be trained to do is a pre-induction interview with the client. During that interview you'll learn how to access the client's wants and needs--the suggestions will virtually write themselves.

You're wrong, I don't assume that all people are machines with replaceable parts. What I do believe though, is that there are certain "expressions" that goes for many people, the same way we say "love", and can all somewhat relate to it the same way. Anyway, if this is not about religious beliefs, whether or not someone believe it is right to express themselves or not, if it wasn't to be about an attitude, because the person obviously wants to express her/himself and wants to "break" the inner wall. Isn't it possible to put a general term to it? Aren't we all somewhat getting the same feeling? Put aside the real root to it or what caused it, the feeling is like "love", it has a general term.. am I right? Hypnosis don't always cause the root anyway. How can a simple suggestion like "I am feeling confident" treat the root of the problem? That's not what I need an answer on, anywayz.

I thought this forum was a place to ask these questions, sort of a way to come for advice if you didn't register yourself to any hypno-therapy course.

[Russ]

Hi Mariah,

I doubt Don meant anything personal by saying you were being too general.

There is no way he could give suggestions with the information you provided him.

He could describe methods used to find and approach such a problem but, he couldn't teach you how to do it online. His options are basically say Yes, No or direct you to a hypnotherapist.

Even with the word Love that we can all somewhat relate to, somewhat doesn't suffice. Go look at the Hypnosis for Love thread. See just how much people differ even when it comes to love.

[Jack]

Hello Mariah,

I second what both Don and Russ have said. In my experience when people have a problem it is generally a subconscious request for help. There may be blocks to resolving the problem, but a good hypnotherapist will either remove or work around those blocks using his/her training and experience. This treatment is different every time for every client because people are complex and unique, and although it would be nice if such treatment could be codified and written down into a formula for success - in the same way you might bake a perfect cake - it will never happen because of that uniqueness.

This forum is open to any questions you may have, but no-one here can be held responsible if you don't like the answers.

Jack

[skip]

Mariah,

This is a place to come, whether, or not, you have signed up for someones training.

I admire your drive and your determination to accomplish what you want to accomplish. I believe, if for no other reason than that, you will succeed.

You have come to this list with a number of preconcieved notions, and when someone responds in a way contrary to your notions you seem to feel personally affronted.

It has been my experience that the more one learns about this "art" of hypnosis, the more ones questions tend to change. and later when one looks back on what one used to know and what one used to believe, sometimes one wonders, "How could I have ever thought that?"

Mariah, while I am not recommending that you stop asking questions here, I AM still strongly of the opinion that you wil be best served, to find a hypnotist who will work with you in person, AND in your first language, Norwegan, isnt it?

If you were to have applied that great drive and determination, that I so admire, to finding someone to work with in person, you would have already accomplished a lot and many of your questions would have already been answered experientially.

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[Don]

You're wrong, I don't assume that all people are machines with replaceable parts. What I do believe though, is that there are certain "expressions" that goes for many people, the same way we say "love", and can all somewhat relate to it the same way. Anyway, if this is not about religious beliefs, whether or not someone believe it is right to express themselves or not, if it wasn't to be about an attitude, because the person obviously wants to express her/himself and wants to "break" the inner wall. Isn't it possible to put a general term to it? Aren't we all somewhat getting the same feeling? Put aside the real root to it or what caused it, the feeling is like "love", it has a general term.. am I right? Hypnosis don't always cause the root anyway. How can a simple suggestion like "I am feeling confident" treat the root of the problem? That's not what I need an answer on, anywayz.

I thought this forum was a place to ask these questions, sort of a way to come for advice if you didn't register yourself to any hypno-therapy course.

Hi, Mariah.

I meant no offense, but was trying to be clear. Perhaps it may have been more appropriate for me to say that your post assumes that people are machines as I certainly can't know what you feel without an in-depth interview, and it was wrong of me to make that assumption. I certainly know that sometimes, on posts, we use words that don't come across as meaning what we intended to say, but that is what I got from your post.

You are correct, that there are certain beliefs that some people have in common. Let's say out of a group of 100 people, 99 have them in common. If I were to make suggestions based on those 99 people, I might have as much as a 99% success rate. Not bad for a group. However, if it turned out that only one person of that group came to me for assistance, and that one person was not part of the 99, my suggestions for that person would be all wrong. I would have a 100% failure.

Without doing an interview with a client, it is impossible for me to know what suggestions to use and the best way to give them to a specific client (paternal? permissive? direct? metaphoric?).

Words can cause a great deal of problems, and one of the things I've seen is that some people assume that words mean certain things. One hundred people could say they are in love and each will have different feelings, emotions, and behaviors they all identify as love! Merely giving something a name isn't enough--we have to find out what people mean by that name. So respectfully, simply having a general term and then treating someone based on that generality probably won't work (unless the client just happens to be one of the few who will react to that treatment).

The example you asked concerning "I am feeling confident," is a good one. Is it possible that such a suggestion will work? The answer is, "possibly." The term "confident" will mean different things to different people. If a person interprets the word in a way that will help, then yes, it will work. If they have an interpretation that is not related to the real problem, it may not help at all. How do you know the difference? You have to talk to the person. You have to do an interview. During that time you might want to make clear what you mean when you say "confident" so when you give it as a suggestion they will interpret it exactly as you intended.

Yes, this is a place to come to ask questions. Sometimes, very bright people will have an insight and ask advanced questions before getting the basics. I have just barely scratched the surface with answering your question. Books could be written on the subject (and have been!). That's why I suggested you take a class in hypnotherapy. I think you could make a great hypnotherapist and help many people. I think you may have a goal of being able to help yourself and other change behaviors to help you become everything you want to be. I was encouraging you to do exactly that.

[Merlin]

Mariah,

You've come here with many questions. That's good!
But I have a question for you.
Are the majority of these inqueries for personal issues?
It's OK if they are.

But you should know. All the issues you've inquired about may have the same roots.
This is why a good hypnotist is so often recommended.

One or two visits may unravel everything.
Then there would be no need for trial-and-error self hypnosis trying to 'fix' each problem individually.

It's like trying to find a medication for pain, a medication for fever, a medication for pain, a medication for...
when one antibiotic could cure the real problem.

Now, maybe all this doesn't apply to you and you're just curious?
But it would be a disservice not to at least tell you :)

[mariah]

OK, I haven't actually read any of your responds until now. Anyway, I appreciate the fact that you all somewhat seem to "believe in me". And I will admit, most of my questions on here relates to my own personal issues/whatever you might call them. Not all is about my problems/issues though, but simply my own opinions and what interests me in general. But I am a high school student, not a hypnotist. Somehow I get the impression you all think I'm extremely rich, which I am by the way not. I would think you all know what a professional hypnotist charges, since many of you are this already. The same with hypnosis-courses, I was just about to ask if you had any idea how much money that is- but I'm guessing you all somewhat do. I'm guessing I'm about the youngest one on this board, except from the 15-year-old which is slightly younger than me. I have parents to support me but not at all the way you may think (as with money, for instance). I have already seen a hypnotist in my country, and I believe he is about the only one in my country that deals with the type of issues that I have. As a result I was broke for 2 months straight and couldn't see a slight of change within myself. I'm going a long way now to see a different hypnotist which is not even in my country. Overall, how to help myself without ruining other areas in my life (money-wise), has become one of the main issues here. So before giving me more suggestions about seeing expensive hypnotists and paying for expensive hypnosis-courses, how about putting yourself in my position, and realize that someone is still in school and don't get paid for it.

[mariah]

Mariah,

You have come to this list with a number of preconcieved notions, and when someone responds in a way contrary to your notions you seem to feel personally affronted.

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I will comment on this, not because I am "personally affronted" but because this is slightly a misunderstanding. I am not usually personally affronted with anything on this board, this is the way I am in general. And once again, that is not personally affronted. I use your words to build up my own. I play on people's points to make my own points. Most of the time I am actually being sarcastic, so try to read a little more between the lines and we will all communicate better.

[Merlin]

>So before giving me more suggestions about seeing expensive hypnotists and paying for expensive hypnosis-courses, how about putting yourself in my position, and realize that someone is still in school and don't get paid for it.

Mariah, my answer is the same regardless of your finances.
If you had a tumorous lump you had found growing on your neck, and you came to a webboard asking for advice on cutting the tumor off, then you should be referred to a qualified surgeon.

If you then told us your age and financial status, anyone giving you advice on how to cut the tumor off yourself would be doing you a disservice.

There may be many people who sell self-surgery books and give advice. Those parasites have the legal right (in many countries) to sell such foolish advice and take your money.

There are even some who occasionally post here who will give you poor advice about self-surgery (self-hypnosis). This webboard is not moderated in such a way as to prevent bad advice.

There are many things self-hypnosis may be used for. Many of your requests are not of the self-help kind.
You need surgery for many of the things you ask.
You need skilled outside help for best results.

I'm very sorry if you feel self-surgery is your only option. But advising for such is just not in your best interest.

[mariah]

Merlin,

I'm not asking any of you to do the surgery, nor tell me how to do the so-called surgery myself. What I'm asking you to do, is simple to put me in narcosis so that I will ALLOW these strangers to cut me wide open. Please don't argue that you can't do that for me, because you very much can. Give me any drug, and it will put me down. Sleeping-medicine, if nothing else. Either way I will read the instructions carefully to make sure you are not giving me anything that could indeed "harm" me. But I know myself, and I know that once I do get to a surgeon, I will not let him touch me with his knife unless I am strongly unconsqious, and more so than hypnosis!

You brought this whole surgery-thing up, don't blame me:rolleyes:

[Don]

Hi, Mariah.

I've tried to explain this to you before, and I apologize. It seems I've done a very bad job in making myself clear on this. But I'll try again. :)

Merlin gave an analogy, and you took it in a different way than she intended. Her point was that you don't take a serious situation that requires expert treatment and do it yourself by reading a book on the subject.

You took that and extended it to the concept that you want us to simply tell you how to take one of those expert skills, use it on yourself, so that you can then go on and give yourself healing suggestions.

The problem is this. As I pointed out before, you're going under the assumption that all people are machines and they all operate (pardon the pun) in the same way. People aren't that way. Everyone is a unique individual. What works for someone else may not work for you. In another thread you said that you can't still yourself while listening to your hypnosis CDs. You really are not a machine and what works for some others is not working for you.

So how can we learn what will work for you? We would have to do an in-person interview. This would have to be done in person, it can't be done quickly and over the internet in a forum.

You're comment that you'd have to be in narcosis to allows someone to work on you is really quite good. What it shows is that to do powerful work with someone you need to establish rapport with that person so that they are no longer a stranger. This is true. And the quickest, easiest way to do this is in person.

Okay, you're in high school and you don't have a lot of money. But again, you're assuming that hypnotherapists would charge you a great deal of money. Some have sliding scales. Some could work out payments over time. Some could work out having you do some work for them in exchange for hypnotherapy. How many have you called and asked about these possibilities? My guess (and I apologize if I'm wrong) is that you've simply assumed that hypnotherapists are going to work against you instead of with you. If that is accurate I have two words for you: you're wrong.

Most classes in hypnotherapy also have specials for students, people who will help, sliding scales, etc. Have you called any classes and simply said, "I'm a high school student and don't have a lot of money, but I'd really like to learn. Is there some way I could do an exchange with you?"

Fiinally, it is my guess that hypnotherapists won't work with you unless you get permission from a parent or guardian. Perhaps the first thing you should do is communicate with them and tell them that you are having some problems and need some assistance.

[mariah]

Hi, Mariah.

"I've tried to explain this to you before, and I apologize. It seems I've done a very bad job in making myself clear on this. But I'll try again. :)

Merlin gave an analogy, and you took it in a different way than she intended. Her point was that you don't take a serious situation that requires expert treatment and do it yourself by reading a book on the subject."

You are doing a fairly good job, I'm the one not being able to express that to you the right way! I understand perfectly fine what it is you mean, in fact, I tried to prove to you that I did, but appearently with no success eh?:cool:

"You took that and extended it to the concept that you want us to simply tell you how to take one of those expert skills, use it on yourself, so that you can then go on and give yourself healing suggestions."

Uhm... wrong! Remember I did not ask for the expert-skills, I asked for the "preparation" to the expert-skills! That has got nothing whatsoever to do with the expert-skills, only so that I can handle it later. Look above and read my example on surgery again!

"The problem is this. As I pointed out before, you're going under the assumption that all people are machines and they all operate (pardon the pun) in the same way. People aren't that way. Everyone is a unique individual. What works for someone else may not work for you. In another thread you said that you can't still yourself while listening to your hypnosis CDs. You really are not a machine and what works for some others is not working for you."

I know it can be very individual, but I am not asking you to "individualize" me right now. I am asking if theres a possibility that you can try to make it general (in your own experience, for instance). I will "absorb" this information and MAKE it personal, I just want an idea. I am not asking for a correct answer, I am asking for a SUGGESTION to an answer. Your opinion, rather.

"So how can we learn what will work for you? We would have to do an in-person interview. This would have to be done in person, it can't be done quickly and over the internet in a forum."

Once again, I am not asking you to do that.

You're comment that you'd have to be in narcosis to allows someone to work on you is really quite good. What it shows is that to do powerful work with someone you need to establish rapport with that person so that they are no longer a stranger. This is true. And the quickest, easiest way to do this is in person.

"Okay, you're in high school and you don't have a lot of money. But again, you're assuming that hypnotherapists would charge you a great deal of money. Some have sliding scales. Some could work out payments over time. Some could work out having you do some work for them in exchange for hypnotherapy. How many have you called and asked about these possibilities? My guess (and I apologize if I'm wrong) is that you've simply assumed that hypnotherapists are going to work against you instead of with you. If that is accurate I have two words for you: you're wrong."

Assuming or not, I have looked up plenty of them already and they all seem damn expensive to me! But you are right, there are exceptions.

"Most classes in hypnotherapy also have specials for students, people who will help, sliding scales, etc. Have you called any classes and simply said, "I'm a high school student and don't have a lot of money, but I'd really like to learn. Is there some way I could do an exchange with you?""

I may take that advice later on. Never thought people were that nice. Thanks for opening my eyes!:)

"Fiinally, it is my guess that hypnotherapists won't work with you unless you get permission from a parent or guardian. Perhaps the first thing you should do is communicate with them and tell them that you are having some problems and need some assistance."

I am 18, isn't this the age parents stop bugging you with having to know everything about your personal issues? Yes I believe it is.

[mariah]

Read through your comment, because my responds are in between them! Its all so confusing, sorry:/

[Don]

I am 18, isn't this the age parents stop bugging you with having to know everything about your personal issues? Yes I believe it is.

Being attached to an expectation (I expect people to behave in a certain way) will inevitably result in disappointment when the people don't behave as expected.

As one of my teachers told me, "the main reason people are unhappy is their inability to accept a simple truth: what is, is."

[guest]

mariah.,. I'm just curious.. does the highschool provide one or two deans/counselors to aid in student issues?

.. you could actually go talk to your counselors and see if any of them will be able to aid with understanding your questions if you don't wish to find a anonymus hypnotherapist..

[mariah]

mariah.,. I'm just curious.. does the highschool provide one or two deans/counselors to aid in student issues?

.. you could actually go talk to your counselors and see if any of them will be able to aid with understanding your questions if you don't wish to find a anonymus hypnotherapist..

Every school is not like every school in America! No, we don't have our own conselour in school, and no, the one or two counselours that are there don't really know much, if anything, especially not about hypnosis. I appreciate your income, anyway.