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bret rigby
07-20-2008, 10:58 PM
So I have been independently studying NLP and Hypnosis for a while and have found it to be a powerful force in my life. In fact, to me one of the most amazing things I have done with it is attracting someone back into my life that I was almost certain at one point that I would never see again. But I digress.

One of the most rewarding experiences to me has been my ability to teach these techniques I have learned.(My favorite being one I'm sure everyone uses and that's the movie theater NLP technique)

My question is this: I would definitely like to start a practice in helping people acheive goals, my question is what is the first step? Is there a good way to receive formal training on the subject? In about a year I start working on my BA in Psychology. Which of course I was looking on going into a Master's program and I noticed American Pacific University offers a Master in Transpersonal Psychology, anyone have experience or knowledge of this program? (On a sidenote: someday I may want a Ph.D, what are some of the programs in this field)

I could go more into it, but I think the other side is the business end of it.. and I can read a book on that.

Poodle
07-21-2008, 09:05 AM
with AmPac for your psychology degree, you most likely will find that only grad students may apply -- you may receive your Masters or PhD.

You want to start a NLP practice without in person training? I'm sure if you search this Forum you will find many of our preferences.

'movie theater technique' my sweet behind!!

Terry
07-21-2008, 10:25 AM
:eek: So I have been independently studying NLP andHypnosis for a while does this mean you have read about it, but want us to believe you did much more?

One of the most rewarding experiences to me has been my ability to teach these techniques I have learned.(My favorite being one I'm sure everyone uses and that's the movie theater NLP technique) Not only have you lied about what your learning amounts to, but you now tell us you have had the nerve to teach it also, and now want us to condone what you did, and perhaps support you when you are charged eh?

My question is this: I would definitely like to start a practice in helping people acheive goals, my question is what is the first step? Is there a good way to receive formal training on the subject? In about a year I start working on my BA in Psychology. Which of course I was looking on going into a Master's program and I noticed American Pacific University offers a Master in Transpersonal Psychology, anyone have experience or knowledge of this program? (On a sidenote: someday I may want a Ph.D, what are some of the programs in this field)

I could go more into it, but I think the other side is the business end of it.. and I can read a book on that. I suggest you contact APU directly and tell them what your experience to date is. I would be very interested in their reply......Oh yes, on a side note, I think you are full of it, and feel personally insulted that you presume to con us with such garbage.....:eek:

Connie
07-21-2008, 10:49 AM
There are a lot of people out there who denigrate what we do, think it's casual, easy knowledge and no training necessito. What's one more?

Simple Guy
07-21-2008, 11:34 AM
'movie theater technique' my sweet behind!![/quote]

Hi Poodle,

I, for one, love this line. :)

bret rigby
07-21-2008, 02:56 PM
:eek: does this mean you have read about it, but want us to believe you did much more?

Not only have you lied about what your learning amounts to, but you now tell us you have had the nerve to teach it also, and now want us to condone what you did, and perhaps support you when you are charged eh? I suggest you contact APU directly and tell them what your experience to date is. I would be very interested in their reply......Oh yes, on a side note, I think you are full of it, and feel personally insulted that you presume to con us with such garbage.....:eek:

Wow totally took what I said and totally got defensive. I have read up on it and helped people used what I have learned helps me to help them with some of their problems. And it was really cool and gave me a genuine feeling of helping someone, isn't it better to learn by teaching? I find that's the best way to learn..

But I would really feel more comfortable with the grad degrees that APU offers and I wanted to know if anyone has information on the program or if they recommend it.

Connie
07-21-2008, 03:47 PM
isn't it better to learn by teaching? :eek:

That's an incredible statement, and frightening.

bret rigby
07-21-2008, 04:22 PM
:eek:

That's an incredible statement, and frightening.

Again, not fully understanding that.

Once you know something you think front to back and then you apply and teach it you learn things you never knew about it. How to adapt and tailor the tool to that person and learning more than every about that tool.

You don't expect to know everything and never learn a thing do you?

Don
07-21-2008, 05:57 PM
Bret, the concept that with hypnotherapy you "help people with their problems," as you put forth, is terribly dated, functionally incorrect, has a focus of disempowering rather than empowering people, and in some states of the U.S. is factually illegal.

Now, contrary to some of the people here, I do agree that one of the best ways to learn "a subject" is by teaching it. However, there are certain subject areas where this is not valid. For example, I think a person should be fully trained in brain surgery and have practiced it for some time before teaching it. Perhaps teaching theories behind brain surgery, but not the practice. I would respectfully contend the same is true with hypnotherapy. Teaching the theories behind hypnotherapy may be a good way to learn, but the actual practice of hypnotherapy is not the same.

I know you fully believe that you have helped people today. But what will those people do if that "help" backfires and triggers behavioral abnormalities in the future, and they don't recognize that your lack of training was the cause? They could end up under psychological care for years because you played with their minds and don't have the training or practice under the eye of someone with more experience and training than you.

Bret, I applaud you for your enthusiasm and interest! But please understand, this is not a game! Before you play in anyone else's mind, please get some professional, in-person training. Study all you want. Read books. Read websites. Ask questions here. Listen to CDs, tapes and MP3s, watch videos. But get real training first.

In fact, you may find that many of your questions about starting a practice will be fully answered in the classes you take.

Good luck! I know you can do well. But from what you have stated so far, here is my advice to you:
Stop playing around.
Become a professional.

bret rigby
07-21-2008, 06:08 PM
And that's all I wanted in the beginning was help in finding formal training. I have done little things. I may have jumped to my end goal of wanting to help people on a more major scale but that's far far in the future.

And I was looking for recommended programs and just mentioning I had used a few things I had learned to help people disassociate some negative things for them. And with the little that gave me I wanted to explore more.. but in a more formal manner. But now I'm second guessing it a little..

Don
07-21-2008, 11:21 PM
Without knowing where you are it would be difficult to recommend a trainer in your area! :)

Merlin
07-22-2008, 11:28 AM
Hi Bret,
Psych study is a good approach for helping people.
It'll allow you to get licensed in the various states.
But you won't learn much hypnosis :(
It's a competing field.
Psychs feel threatened by someone who can reliably help resolve in a few visits something that takes them 20-30 years.

One problem with self-learning/teaching is that what you learn is often out dated. But without a skilled guide, how do you know?
You might have to unlearn a great deal.
Compare what you've learned to my FAQ as a test.