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Changy
07-04-2008, 08:43 AM
What is the success rate of hypnotherapy?
Thanks,
Changy.
Poodle
07-04-2008, 08:55 AM
Totally depends upon the hypnotist and the client. Can easily be about 98%.
Changy
07-04-2008, 08:58 AM
Totally depends upon the hypnotist and the client. Can easily be about 98%.
When we say success does this mean a complete cure e.g. to remove depression?
Thanks,
Changy.
Changy, that's like asking what the "success rate" is for curing AIDS.
There are some medical treatments which seem to do to end all symptoms and return the affected cell counts to normal in some people.
The real answer to your question depends upon several things. First, what do you mean by "cure?"
Second, for the unnamed problem, what do you mean. For example, in your sample of depression, what do you mean by "depression?"
Does the client really want to change?
Does the client have secondary gains that might prevent desired change?
Is the hypnotherapist qualified to work in this area?
Do the hypnotist and client have good rapport?
Also, there is another thing to consider. If 99 people go to a hypnotist and don't change, that's a 0% success rate. If one more person goes to that hypnotist and successfully and completely changes, looking at the 100 people, that's only a 1% success rate. But for that one person, success is 100%.
Changy, I can't give you a response to hypotheticals that do not give specifics and without an in-person interview with a prospective client.
What is it you really want to know?
Changy
07-04-2008, 12:18 PM
Thanks Don. The reason why i'm asking is because I have had major depression the last few years and it's really affecting my life. I've heard good reports about 2 alternative treatments which are rekki healing and hynotherapy. Supposodly there both very quick and treat the problem directly unlike conventional methods which tackle it very slowly and can take many years. However I would like to know the success rates for various methods to help me decide.
Thanks,
Changy.
Poodle
07-04-2008, 05:30 PM
There are many factors that can cause what you are calling depression. There are different types of depression with totally different symptomology. We really don't like "labels" and prefer to work on problems.
Personally, being a Reiki Master/Teacher in two disciplines, I would not recommend it for depression of any type. However, with hypnotherapy we can ask the mind to change the chemical makeup of what it is currently creating or do any number of other things to alleviate the miserable curse you call depression.
I believe you live in Europe, perhaps England? I'm not 100% sure of the legalities there. In the USA if you have been treated by a licensed professional, MD, psychiatrist, psychologist, etc. you would need a written referral for hypnosis.
Perhaps all you really have is a little case of the "blues" which can mean you'll be right as rain soon.
In NLP we have other ways of changing things around and Time Line Therapy also works with both worlds - hypnosis and NLP - together.
Sometimes clinical depression can last as little as three or four months all the way up to ten years. Some people worry that they cannot be hypnotized due to the so-called depression. I've read that manic depressives can be genetic so it lasts 4EVER! Right!! We can help greatly with that too and we can go back genetically.
Start looking for the rainbows! They're out there.
Be well, (direct command)
Pood :)
mojczak
07-04-2008, 07:05 PM
In NLP we have other ways of changing things around and Time Line Therapy also works with both worlds - hypnosis and NLP - together.
Sometimes clinical depression can last as little as three or four months all the way up to ten years. Some people worry that they cannot be hypnotized due to the so-called depression. I've read that manic depressives can be genetic so it lasts 4EVER! Right!! We can help greatly with that too and we can go back genetically.
Start looking for the rainbows! They're out there.
Be well, (direct command)
Pood :)
Wait wait, there is a way to heal the genetic stock as well, like, if I am to have kids they won't have the fragilities I've had and such...?
Poodle
07-04-2008, 10:19 PM
Could very well be. :cool:
mojczak
07-04-2008, 10:53 PM
Could very well be. :cool:
That's admitting that I will want to have children some day...
It's just because my family has had a story of chemical imbalance and disorders of many sorts, and I feel that my conscious of my situation might turn the tide a bit for me... if I can become... me... but I definitely wouldn't want to have children some day knowing they will possibly face the desire to kill themselves quite an impressive number of times themselves, or at least not as strongly as I do.
MissPiggy
07-05-2008, 12:55 PM
Changy, I did have problems with depression myself and the depression also did affect my life in a very negative way. NLP & hypnosis have been useful but what is much more important for me to keep the depression out of my life is frequent sports. Nothing extreme just running 2, 3 times per week is extremly helpful to me. Of course it can be diffult to start especially when you're depressive but I would recommend it to everybody suffering from depression. Not instead of therapy but additional.
Changy
07-05-2008, 01:29 PM
Changy, I did have problems with depression myself and the depression also did affect my life in a very negative way. NLP & hypnosis have been useful but what is much more important for me to keep the depression out of my life is frequent sports. Nothing extreme just running 2, 3 times per week is extremly helpful to me. Of course it can be diffult to start especially when you're depressive but I would recommend it to everybody suffering from depression. Not instead of therapy but additional.
Thanks Miss Piggy. I do already do several sports in football and boxing, i'm also a bodybuilder and do a lot of running. Would you say that nlp and hypnosis were very helpful in that it took the depression away 100% or very helpful in that it made massive improvements?
Thanks,
Changy.
MissPiggy
07-05-2008, 01:50 PM
It did not take the depression away 100%, but if you want a percentage I would say minimum 95%. That's something I can live very good with. The big difference is when depressions come back now I don't feel helpless anymore and I can make them go away much more quick either with NLP or running.
Something else you might try is EFT. I work with EFT for myself just since a couple of weeks and as strange as this procedure is it seems to work. I don't use EFT against depressions, but it might work for this problem too.
MissPiggy
07-05-2008, 01:54 PM
Here is a link to EFT http://www.emofree.com/articles.aspx?id=10
Changy
07-05-2008, 03:37 PM
It did not take the depression away 100%, but if you want a percentage I would say minimum 95%. That's something I can live very good with. The big difference is when depressions come back now I don't feel helpless anymore and I can make them go away much more quick either with NLP or running.
Something else you might try is EFT. I work with EFT for myself just since a couple of weeks and as strange as this procedure is it seems to work. I don't use EFT against depressions, but it might work for this problem too.
That sounds good to me. Ideally I want a quick procedure with no drugs involved which is effective. I will have to start looking.
Thanks,
Changy.
Hi, Changy.
I regret to say that I have a problem with your question--not with you or what's behind the question, but the question itself.
You see, lots of people use the term "depression" without knowing that "depression" is a technical term that covers a wide variety of behaviors.
Now, because you say you've had "major depression," I'm inclined to think--and yes, this is a guess--that you have no concept of what the technical meaning of "clinical depression" is. Further, I'm also going to guess that you've never been to a psychologist or psychiatrist who has diagnosed you with "major depression."
So what has been going on? My guess is that you've heard something about "depression" and have one or more symptoms or behaviors that seem like they qualify as "depression."
Maybe they do; maybe they don't. I don't know and frankly, I don't care about such definitions. That's because I'm not an MD or a licensed psychologist.
If you have been to an MD, psychologist or psychiatrist and been diagnosed as having a "major depression," then I would respectfully suggest going back to that person and asking for a referral to a hypnotherapist, NLP practitioner, etc.
But as I wrote, my guess is that you have not done so (or at most, it was some time ago). You see, "depression" says nothing about symptoms, it's merely a diagnosis. It says nothing about treatment. So, for the time being, forget 100% about the term "depression." Instead, look at the symptoms--the behaviors you want to change--and work with those.
Right now, your diagnosis of "depression" is like going to a doctor and saying that you have a cut and need a bandage. The doctor might give you the bandage, but if the doctor actually examined you, the doctor might discover you have a broken arm with the bone sticking out and treating you for a small cut might be totally wrong.
So Changy, I would respectfully suggest that you stop trying to diagnose your problem and leave such work to the experts who have studied behavior and helped people change behaviors for years or decades. Instead of calling it "depression," describe your specific symptoms--all of them. Even ones you think are unimportant.
Then we can give a more accurate response to your real question.
Merlin
07-06-2008, 11:13 AM
That depends on what is being worked with.
Cancer? before or after chemo, radiation, amputation, etc.
Diabetes?
Myopia?
Eyecolour?
Breast enhancement?
Anxiety?
and so on...
It also depends on the hypnotist's skills.
Changy
07-06-2008, 02:06 PM
You have a point there Don but I have had the problem diagnosed as depression. I orginally thought it was OCD but my doctor told me that the OCD like symptoms were caused by the depression and the OCD symptoms only occur when im depressed.
Let's ignore all medical definitons for a minute and focus on the problem, can a technique such as hypnosis/ nlp or similar change you into the person you want to be but can't seem to do on your own. If you've answered this question already then I aplogise. I'm just worried that i've had this problem for so long that things cant change.
By the way my freind warned me the other day about "fake" hypnotherapists - people who are there to scam you. Are there any authentic websites detailing people from the UK.
Thanks,
Changy.
MissPiggy
07-06-2008, 03:49 PM
By the way my freind warned me the other day about "fake" hypnotherapists - people who are there to scam you. Are there any authentic websites detailing people from the UK.
Thanks,
Changy.
You can look here http://www.nlptrainers.com/search/instsearch.php or here http://www.ngh.net/about/contactus.aspx to find somebody qualified.
Poodle
07-06-2008, 08:01 PM
Send a PM to Jack. There is a "Registry" in England. Not all that many Brits belong to NGH. It only requires 100 hours of training or you can send me a PM as I know a few in London that make the Earth shake.
How long is "so long"? Clinical usually resolves itself within ten years. Has it been 10 years or less? Now my ex has it reoccuring - like a few months every 5 years or so. Very strange and he really hates it as he cannot be the "head of the household" and the wife has to write out the checks and take care of finances. As we are living in separate continents I can't help him. It's actually where I first learned hypnotherapy and he was usually the "victim". He would always swear up and down that it never happened. This was before video cameras, etc. I can honestly say I have never had a client like him with complete and total nonsuggested amnesia.
Where is Chichester from you? There is a very dynamic NLP Trainer there that does not do the usual trainings and is quite amazing IMHO. I really don't believe he is that expensive either.
Be well,
Pood
bonecollector
07-09-2008, 10:43 AM
As you mentioned you suffered from depression like me..
This reminds me of a time when my hypnotherapist spoke to both my negative side and my positive side and both (bonecollectors) came to some sort of agreement to work alongside in harmony and hey presto my depression has cleared.
You just have to believe your negative voice in your head is actually trying to protect you and has your best interest in heart.
This method was something i actually told my hypnotherapist to do..
Since im paying him, i might as well boss him around lol.