can i propose a suggestion with the presuppositon

[christian pickett]

that i am enjoying a certain behavior after i kinesthetically took myself through an image and then add to that suggestion a question that asks what i should think to inflict pain and change in myself and rob myself of the great feeling of pleasure i feel from said behavior.

I know it sounds weird but if the body just went through an enjoyable (pleasurable experience) and then i ask a question that says what should i think or beleive to inflict change and pain on myself and rob myself from the great feelings of pleasure i feel ................(any desired behavior goes here)

would that be a succesful way to manipulate the mind's pain/pleasure reward system and strenghten change, since the mind will try to avoid pain change especially when the opposite desired behavior elicits pleasure.

[christian pickett]

say i stopped smoking for a month or so. but had the desire again.

if i take myself through a script where i feel great throwing out a pack of cigarettes ya da ya da and ask myself why i feel so happy refusing to smoke.

could i then say what should i do to inflict great change and pain in myself and rob myself of the great pleasure i feel from refusing to smoke?

[HypnoSoft]

Giving the suggestion of discomfort or pain is often used to disuade the person from committing particular behaviors. Many scripts will describe smoking, to use your example, as tasting like burning garbage, or some other nauseating image. The behavioral term for this is aversion therapy. One way it has been used medically is to combat substance abuse. The subsatance, alcoholic beverage for example, is administered, followed by a drug that causes extreme nausea. This is repeated many times until the association between the substance and the nausea is powerful and permanent.

[christian pickett]

not wether that works, but wether that is a good way to present a hypnotic suggestion what should i do to inflict change and pain on myself and rob myself of the pleasure i feel ya da ya da

or is this dangerous to present a suggestion to yourself like this.

[Thinking Things]

not wether that works, but wether that is a good way to present a hypnotic suggestion what should i do to inflict change and pain on myself and rob myself of the pleasure i feel ya da ya da

or is this dangerous to present a suggestion to yourself like this.
The pleasure you feel in living on without the fear of lung disease outweighs the disgust inherent in continuing what is a path towards suicide, doesn't it? So why live on with the fear of self-inflicted pain when you can embrace fully the joy of knowing you saved your life? You cannot live on to see all you've begun come to pleasing fruition if you die early by your own hand, can you? Only the guilty punish themselves for feeling pride in their achievements. Examine your belief in wanting to inflict pain on yourself. Is it really more important to you than looking forward to all the things you can do better alive than dead?

[Terry (existing)]

Using negative suggestions is something used by those who lack the knowledge or skill to do better. It doesn't offer lasting results because the subconcious won't allow us to cause pain and suffering on ourselves over a prolonged period. It can be used for short term results I suppose, though I have never used it.... I imagine that is what you were trying to ask is it not?

[christian pickett]

It was during a stretch of great anxiety and anguish, when i felt like i was going crazy, and i was feeling awful, During this time I thought of something i didn't want to happen, felt very scared after i thought about it, and then it happened, and I realize i did it to myself. (This is how u can infect disease or something on your self) think of something u don't want to happen, while in a panicky (unresourceful state) and then couple this thought or word with the accompaning negative energy and fear. And i did this it happened, and it wrecked me. I have gotten past it, but I need to get this out of my mind forever. This may sound weird, and i don't want to get into detail. But i just thought that since i now realize what i did and how i did it , that by phrasing a suggestion in this certain way I forgive myself and refuse to let myself think in a way that inflicts pain and change on my body, by robbing me of the pleasure i feel ..........

[voodoochild]

So I guess you can now feel pretty strong about yourself because you've been through all of this and it made you wiser and more aware about the things you do in your mind and behaviours so that you can now take more control over your life in a way which you really want to be able to feel good now as you think about all those things you haven't done in your life yet which can make other people and you more joyful of life and since you can be able to make the feeling of wanting a cigarette now better than actually having a cigarette and smoking it you wouldn't want to spoil that feeling would you ? ;)