Subliminal and hypnosis working

[geroge]

Hi I bought 2 hypnosis cds for confidence with the oppsite sex and one subliminal tape you listen to every night before bed and have noticed a change.
My fear still seems to be there BUT I have noticed attractive women all over flirting with me some are pretty foward with it. This is strange to me. Women have always seemed to like me recently it has been more noticable.
Steve G Jones and striker corbin were the cd hypnosis.
Steve Jones.

In your experence in hypnosis do these Cds,tapes work for deep rooted issues like life long phobias with the oppsite sex?

Thank a bunch and forgive my spelling kind of tired!

[Will]

I can sum up the answer in the following: Tapes and CD's may work but they may not necesarly address the underlying issues, as it has been suggested a million times on this board if your serious about changing something its strongly suggested you goto a hypnotherapist in person.

[Unregistered]

Will's a 100% correct - not that I have to tell him that.
A therapist will give you at least a good assement, if not therapy. Its nothing to worry about, just a few sessions, suggestions on confidence boosting etc. Provided as Will pointed out there are not more issues to deal with. Getting this kind of advice is not going to be accurate on a forum. You need to see a qualified therapist in person.
Good luck with your quest.

[skip]

Geroge,

Im not sure that anyone knows what deep rooted issues are.

You can have behaviors you have had all your life and change them instantly and easily. And you can have behaviors that seem to persist for no good reason at all.

Hypnosis CD's, tapes, whatever can be successful for all sorts of issues and have been successful for thousands upon thousands.

BUT be careful because statistics can be misleading. The insurance actuary tables say a certain number of people will die this year in various age groups. And that will be amazingly, correct. But they cannot predict for a single individual.

The same is true about percentages for hypnosis tapes and or specific problems "treated" this way.

I think it might be reasonable to say the majority of people who buy and use a CD get what they wanted, an additional percentage get some benifit, and a small minority dont notice any benifit at all. Some people will go to one of these group (mass) weight loss or stop smoking sessions, and achieve exactly what they wanted, others will derive no appreciable benifit.

Where you will 'fall' is anyones guess.

With the reasonable prices available today, it seems a small risk to try it and find out for yourself. And I would add that you might want to consider using it every day perhaps twice a day for a t least a month before making a difinitive evaluation. That way you have given it and yourself every opportunity for success.

Please bear in mind, that if you do not notice any positive results, or only limited, it isnt necessarily anyone's "fault", nor that hyonosis cant accomplish what you want, it is more likely that you didnt respond well to that type of hypnotic presentation, and something of a more one on one level would be indicated.

cheers,

skip

[Shuriken]

Are you sure you aren't just noticing what has always been happening?

[geroge]

I might be seeing whats alwasy happend but it feels more real and vivid for some reason

Yes i have gone to professional hypnotherapy and the reason he unconvered my issues were to do with childhood like 5 and not being enough to save my mother from her own mental illness. Strange how deflections and belifes can be figured out so young. How a family can make a child feel responsible for something a trained physcotherapist couldent handle

In essance I was unable to help mom so now have a pretty good amount of issues with women. Am going to avoid being a Victom because thats what I have been doing. NLP,Gestualt,Hypnotherapy,ect dident work I am savy enough to know that sometimes people benfit from cripling neurosis even if it gets in the way of there dreams sometimes for that very reason, Like panic attacks to short you out around a women.

So I have a choice keep self sabotage and analysis on why I am a failure or go out and work towards becoming a winner it actually seems about that simple form my point of view. Stay single alone avoid anexity(big anexity) and ***** or go out and keep crawling untill I can walk.

Just wondering if hypnosis cds,subliminals have been a help? Either way its on me

[geroge]

P.S thank you for the advice! everybody and please excuse the spelling errors:)

[Jack]

Hello,

I think I agree in the main with Skip's post. The CD you choose may work fine for you or it may not. Some products out there are absolute trash and others use well established principles to work as well as they can under the circumstances.

But, there may still be underlying issues which will prevent a remote therapy from working as intended simply because all such are generic and use a 'shotgun' approach to solving particular problems.

I would suggest that if hypnotherapy didn't work for you it was because either a) the hypnotherapist was incompetent b) you don't really want help c) you are unaware that you don't really want help.

Now, I know that c & d might seem a little harsh because you have taken the time to post here and ask questions, but many times in my own practice I have clients who desperately want resolution to their problems, but the cure is worse than the problem as far as their subconcious mind is concerned. A skilled therapist will deal with that. An unskilled therapist will put it down to conscious 'resistance', and blame the client (which in my opinion is a cop out). A CD will do nothing specifically to address either conscious or subconscious resistance, but may chance upon exactly the right combination of words, images, thoughts, feelings to persuade the subconscious that it needs to change.

So, your chances of finding the right CD to do that are not good, but your chances of finding the right therapist are a little better.

Jack

[CunningLinguist]

On a side-note: I was under the impression that there is no evidence that audio subliminal messages have any effect whatsoever. In fact, evidence more likely points to no effect at all.

If I was using CDs I would always go for some form of hypnosis product rather than subliminal. In my opinion if your issue can be dealt with using Audio technology, then a hypnosis CD will be massively more effective than a subliminal one ever could.

[Unregistered]

[QUOTE=geroge]Your right I believe about the subconscious resistance maybe. Funny how the mind can create deflections to what is really wrong.
The cd I actually talked to the hypnotist striker corbin(nice guy) and told him my problems with chilhood and adulthood and had him make a coustom cd. Personally I think it is working and maybe not working. Because I feel pretty good yet have a nagging gut feeling that worrys me that something isent right. I have believed lonelyness was my fear but think my fear actually might be women in general which would suck! Be kind of like being alerigic to water or sleep. That hurts because I have watched everything I try not work think maybe a part of my ego wants to be a victom. That worrys me a little. I will get a handle on it or I will not.
Thanks for the advice.
Far as subliminals research I have read things that said they are totally hopeless and things that have proven they work like declassified documents from the CIA I will try anything once.
The cd for muscle bulding seems to be working like a charm. possible my subconscious dosent attach any THREAT to that.

[CunningLinguist]

I'm not a qualified Hypnotherapist (or indeed any form of therapist) but from what you say, I personally think there's clearly some unconcscious reason for your fear of women which has yet to surface. If I was in your position, then I would seek out a hypnotherapist to see on a personal level. The CDs have worked for you to an extent (which is great, they've been worthwhile then) but have not got to the root of the problem.

As for using subliminals - it's a good attitude to be prepared to give things a go and have an open mind. You may find your attitude is your strongest asset in sorting out your main goal.

Good luck

[guest]

you seem to have let your "problem" become part of your self-definition.

most people are under the false assumption that the behavioral patterns of the past define you

that may be what others use to judge you, but they arent what define you.

other's judgements don't define you, nor do their reactions to you, or their assumptions about you, or their opinions of you

what does?

well, you can chose how to answer that question.

That, my friend, is freedom.

[Striker Corbin]

George,

Don't keep looking for what isn't working. Feel terrific about how women are now treating you! We can waste our entire lives focusing on lack, what we dont have (yet), or creating new fears and anxieties. Stop looking outside for what is wrong with you. Use your CD's you program your subconcious and create the reality you truly desire.

Go out with some of those women and HAVE FUN.
-Striker

[Geroge]

Wow its a small world there!(well not really it is a hypnosis site) Anyway yes the cd seems to be working because I notice. A funny thing is starting to happen. The more successful I get the more a part of me feels like he is treading on thin ice and getting very unconfrontable, Maybe some subconscious block thing.Out of any hypnosis cd have to say I like yours best. Steve jones was pretty good too.

Thanks again:)
Just trying to figure out some kinks.

[Shlomo_NLP]

I always thought Subliminal recordings are like Placebo... where your subconscious mind is actually given an indirect suggestion to change something.