View Full Version : dieting -- help!!!
Unregistered
12-19-2004, 12:39 PM
Hi,
i've used to concider myself a strong willed person, but there is this dieting issue, i just seem to be unable to do anything about. lately i've gained some weight and i need to lose 10 - 15 lb., i have all the nutritional information, i know exactly what should i be eating and not eating, but i just can't steek to the eating plan. each time i find myself breaking the diet badly, and then the next day i'm so depressed about it that i continue eating lots of junkfood. i know it's something psycological, eating caused by boredom, depression, etc. , but i can't do anything about it!!!! i know i just have to make a decision
and stick to it, but how do i do it?
Merlin
12-19-2004, 01:11 PM
Willpower isn't enough <sigh>
>...eating caused by boredom, depression...
The mind is very good at rationalising and coming up with 'why'.
It often isn't true, but the mind tries to explain things anyway.
A skilled hypnotist can help guide your subconscious mind.
You could buy a weightloss CD, but that's a one-size-fits-all solution. Hit-or-miss type of thing.
Hello,
No such thing as willpower. If there was you would just say 'I will stop putting so much food into my mouth' and it would work.
The reason the diet does not work is because your subconscious mind has a reason for keeping this unhealthy eating pattern and just consciously wishing it away won't do. A good hypnotherapist will help you discover the reason and update your subconscious so that the reason is no longer valid. You will then become slimmer. You will have no need of diets. You will eat what you like when you like. Of course, what you like will change as will when you like.
The only reason why a person becomes overweight, (if not hormonal), is the stuffing of food or the wrong sort of food into the mouth and swallowing it. Find the reason you want to do this and you are halfway to the solution.
Jack
Jack, I have to respectfully disagree.
There are many reasons why a person becomes overweight, not just "...the stuffing of food or the wrong sort of food into the mouth and swallowing it."
For example, if you put the right foods in appropriate amounts in into your mouth and swallow them, but spend your entire life without getting any exercise, you may still gain weight.
It's not only about eating too much or the wrong sorts of food, it's frequenlty about the balance between caloric intake and usage.
Suppose both are correct ?
Two kinds of weight issues !
An individual that fluctuates, 5-10-15 lbs or so overweight is likely due to what Don describes, pimarily poor nutritional and exercise habits. There is no real unconscious motivation to "wrap one's self in weight and similiarly, there is just no real motivation to lose it.
On the other hand, an individual that has rather large amounts of weight likely has considerable unconscious motivation for the weight. Perhaps a way to feel bigger, perhaps protection, perhaps any number of reasons. In this case Jack is 100% on target. No such thing as willpower in this case, no amount of conscious effort, dieting, exercise etc will overcome the unconscious motivation.
EC
Terry (existing)
12-20-2004, 10:04 AM
My own experience leads me towards ECs reply, since I have noted a variety of causes for obesity in any form, but when it comes to just a few pounds, I agree it is probably a lack of excercise as much as anything, though eating quickly contributes, as does eating only once per day, which leads to eating too quickly as one is very hungry by the time they are ready to eat. I know of many women who do this thinking to lose weight, and putting it on instead.
Hello Don,
I don't disagree with your opinion, but I would also respectfully suggest that my original statement was correct.
For a person who takes no exercise the amount of food required to stay alive and fully functioning is, let's say, X. If that person exceeds X and eats 2X then they are subconsciously exceeding the amount that the body needs. If the person was burning the calories then 2X might be appropriate, or even 3X if on high burn activity.
So, to eat more than is required is 'food stuffing'. The key to it is your own word, 'appropriate'.
I come across this with many clients, all of whom believe that they don't overeat but have some sort of genetic predisposition, until (usually) regressed to cause when the reason why normal calorific intake is being exceeded is made clear.
Jack
Jack, I have to respectfully disagree.
There are many reasons why a person becomes overweight, not just "...the stuffing of food or the wrong sort of food into the mouth and swallowing it."
For example, if you put the right foods in appropriate amounts in into your mouth and swallow them, but spend your entire life without getting any exercise, you may still gain weight.
It's not only about eating too much or the wrong sorts of food, it's frequenlty about the balance between caloric intake and usage.
Unregistered
12-21-2004, 07:36 AM
[QUOTE=Don]
First, thank you all for your replies,
>For example, if you put the right foods in appropriate amounts in into your mouth and swallow them, but spend your entire life without getting any exercise, you may still gain weight.
i just have to add that i do get enough exercise, actually i workout about 4 times a week....but it's not enough not to gain weight for me :(
Unregistered
12-21-2004, 07:46 AM
Hi, one more thing i have to make clear:
i am not overweight, i (as i said) have an active lifestyle and look pretty slim (for now), but The thing that bothers me is how come i cannot control my actions??! I'm a grown normal pesron, i know what i should do, what is right for me, but each time i find myself forgetting it all and eating out of control. Usually i was few days of eatig this way and then i did a week of strict diet and shaken of what i've eaten. In this way i didn't, at least, gain weight, though it made me feel bad with myself. But lately this method wouldn't work, i can't even hold on a diet for more than 3 days, so i begin gaining weight. I feel completely out of control.........
Terry (existing)
12-21-2004, 12:36 PM
We have no problem with someone venting here, though it does them no good physically. On the other hand, you now say the what bothers you is not what you first asked about, so reread all posts please.....
To begin with, any serious help will be costly, so be prepared to pay out, not for the few pounds you consider yourself overweight, but for the ability to gain control over your life which you believe you have lost. The later is indeed worth paying for if you consider it so....Consult a good practitioner locally, and find out why you not longer control your destiny.
The wise Terry is right on the money. The weight problem is something (we call it a "presenting problem") that is just a manifestation of the deeper issues. Work on those deeper issues, and the other things will resolve themselves (perhaps with just a bit of retraining).
Yes, your situation can be handled. Figure on a psychoanalyst taking perhaps six years or more to help you. A psychologist may be able to help you in less than a year. A qualified, certified hypnotherapist or NLP practitioner who has experience in this area should be able to guide you to where you want to be much faster.
Hello Guest,
You cannot control your actions because your conscious mind thinks it should but your subconscious mind has other ideas. When the two are in this classic conflict guess which one wins?
There is always a subconscious reason for binge eating followed by a period of guilty dieting. As has been said, see a qualified hypnotherapist, find out the reason and retake control.
Jack